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Comments to Judicial Conference re Citation Reform

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Comments to Judicial Conference re Citation Reform -- March/April 1997


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CONTENTS:

  • Survey of Federal Judges
  • Federal Judges/Clerks Comments/Responses
  • Comments from Federal Agencies (including personal statements from laywers therein)
  • Comments - Bar/Law Associations
  • Comments - Foreign Judges And Lawyers
  • Comments - State Courts, Agencies, Officials [And Individual Statements]
  • Comments - Law Professors - other than Law Librarians
  • Comments - Other Teachers/Professors
  • Comments - Law Libarians - Librarians
  • Comments - Law Students
  • Comments - Lawyers
  • Comments - HyperLaw and other Legal Publishers
  • Comments - Journalists/Writers
  • Comments - Other Associations
  • Comments of General Public

    Other Information

  • HyperLaw Comments re Concerns of Judges
  • March 24, 1996 Hyperlaw Report - Judicial Conference Public Comments

  • What Can You Do to Express Your Views Concerning the Adoption of the ABA Citation Proposal by the Federal Judiciary 1.0
  • Transcript -- Hearing, Automation Committee U.S. Judicial Conference re ABA Citation Proposal, April 3, 1997
  • Addresses of Judges of the United States Judicial Conference
    PDF Files of paragraph numbered printed case reports
  • A Canadian case.Canadian publishers, including Carswell, another Thomson Company, have been using paragraph numbers for years.
  • A New Mexico case, as printed by West.
  • A South Dakota case, as printed by West.

    SURVEY

  • Survey Sent by Administrative Office/Judicial Conference to Federal Judges - 347
    [See, critical comments re survey by Judge Leif M. Clark, U.S. Bankruptcy Judge, Western District of Texas, San Antonio, Texas


  • Table of Responses of Judges to Administrative Office/Automation Committee Survey - All Court

  • Responses to AO Survey in RTF format.
  • The responses of judges only from courts within a single circuit are provided below.

    FEDERAL JUDGES/CLERKS COMMENTS/RESPONSES

    1st Cir. | 2nd Cir. | 3rd Cir. | 4th Cir. | 5th Cir. | 6th Cir. | 7th Cir. | 8th Cir. | 9th Cir. | 10th Cir. | 11th Cir. | DC Cir. | Federal Cir. | Other Cir.

    FEDERAL JUDGES/CLERKS - FIRST CIRCUIT COURTS
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    Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Puerto Rico

  • Table of Survey Response of Judges Within First Circuit

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    FEDERAL JUDGES/CLERKS - SECOND CIRCUIT COURTS
    Connecticut, New York, Vermont

  • Table of Survey Response of Judges Within Second Circuit

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    FEDERAL JUDGES/CLERKS - THIRD CIRCUIT COURTS
    Delaware, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virgin Islands

  • Table of Survey Response of Judges Within Third Circuit

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    FEDERAL JUDGES/CLERKS - FOURTH CIRCUIT COURTS
    Maryland, N. Carolina, S. Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia

  • Table of Survey Response of Judges Within Fourth Circuit
  • Norman H. Meyer, Jr., Clerk of Court, E. District of Virginia - 005
  • Leonie M. Brinkema, United States District Judge, United States District Court, Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria, Virginia - 006
  • James C. Cacheris, Chief Judge, United States District Court, Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria, Virginia, Chief Judge - 007
  • T.S. Ellis, III, United States District Judge, United States District Court, Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria, Virginia - 008
  • Michael R. Seidl, Ph.D. J.D., 851 North Van Dorn Street, Alexandria, VA - 009

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    FEDERAL JUDGES/CLERKS - FIFTH CIRCUIT COURTS
    Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas

  • Table of Survey Response of Judges Within FIFTH Circuit
  • Charles R. Fulbruge III, Clerk, United States Court Of Appeals, Fifth Circuit, New Orleans, LA - 010 -- [HyperLaw Reply Letter to Clerk, Fifth Circuit Re ABA Citation Proposal, March 21, 1997].
  • Gretchen Thiberville, Law Clerk to Judge Thomas M. Brahney, III, United States Bankruptcy Court, Eastern District of Louisiana - 011
  • R. Marla Hamilton, Law Clerk To Judge Jerry a. Brown, United States Bankruptcy Court, For The Eastern District Of Louisiana - 012
  • Judge Leif M. Clark, U.S. Bankruptcy Judge, Western District of Texas, San Antonio, Texas - 013
  • Nancy Doherty, Clerk Of Court, United States District Court, Northern District Of Texas - 014

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    FEDERAL JUDGES/CLERKS - SIXTH CIRCUIT COURTS
    Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, Tennessee

  • Table of Survey Response of Judges Within SIXTH Circuit
  • David D. Dowd, Jr., Judge, U.S. District Court, Northern District of Ohio, Akron, Ohio - 016
  • Robert Holmes Bell, United States District Judge, United States District Court For The Western District Of Michigan, Grand Rapids, Michigan - 018
  • Eric S. Richards, Judicial Clerk to the Hon. James D. Gregg , United States Bankruptcy Court for the Western District of Michigan, Grand Rapids, MI 49501 - 019

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    FEDERAL JUDGES/CLERKS - SEVENTH CIRCUIT COURTS
    Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin

  • Table of Survey Response of Judges Within SEVENTH
  • Richard A. Posner, Chief Judge, United States Court Of Appeals, For The Seventh Circuit, Chicago, Illinois - 015 - [HyperLaw Reply Letter to Hon Richard Posner, Seventh Circuit, March 21, 1997]

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    FEDERAL JUDGES/CLERKS - EIGHTH CIRCUIT COURTS
    Arkansas, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota

  • Table of Survey Response of Judges Within EIGHTH Circuit
  • Michael E. Gans, Clerk of Court, United States Court Of Appeals For The Eighth Circuit, St. Louis, Missouri, Chair, Appellate Court, Clerks Advisory Committee - 020 -- [HyperLaw ReplyLetter to Clerk, Eighth Circuit, March 28, 1997.]
  • Francis E. Dosal, Clerk, U.S. District Court, United States District Court District Of Minnesota, St. Paul, MN - 021

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    FEDERAL JUDGES/CLERKS - NINTH CIRCUIT COURTS
    Arizona, California, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregaon, Washington, Alaska, Hawaii, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands

  • Table of Survey Response of Judges Within NINTH Circuit
  • Chief Judge Procter Hug, Jr (of Nevada)., Chief Judge of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals
    Hug Letter in PDF Format.
  • Peter W. Davis, Chair, Advisory Committee on Rules of Practice and Internal Operating, Procedure of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit - 022
  • Chambers Of Samuel I. Bufford, Bankruptcy Judge, Central District of California, Los Angeles, California - 023
  • Judge Alfredo C. Marquez, Senior Judge, District of Arizona

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    FEDERAL JUDGES/CLERKS - TENTH CIRCUIT COURTS
    Colorado, Kansas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Utah, Wyoming

  • Table of Survey Response of Judges Within Tenth Circuit
  • Leslie B. McGuire, Assistant Librarian, U.S. Courts, Library (10th Cir.), Tulsa, OK - 025

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    FEDERAL JUDGES/CLERKS - ELEVENTH CIRCUIT COURTS
    Alabama, Florida, Georgia

  • Table of Survey Response of Judges Within ELEVENTH Circuit

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    FEDERAL JUDGES/CLERKS - DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT COURTS
    District of Columbia

  • Table of Survey Response of Judges Within First Circuit
  • Harry T. Edwards, Chief Judge, United States Court Of Appeals, District Of Columbia Circuit - 003
  • Stephen F. Williams, United States District Judge, United States Court Of Appeals, District Of Columbia Circuit - 004

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    FEDERAL JUDGES/CLERKS - FEDERAL CIRCUIT COURTS
    Patent, Federal Claims etc.

  • Table of Survey Response of Judges Within FEDERAL Circuit

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    FEDERAL JUDGES/CLERKS - OTHER OR NOT KNOWN FEDERAL COURTS
    Court of International Trade etc.

  • Table of Survey Response of Judges Not Included Above
  • Eugene Wedoff, Bankruptcy Judge (Ct.??) - 017
  • George A. Vannah, Bankruptcy Clerks' Advisory Group (???) - 024

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    FEDERAL AGENCIES (including personal statements from laywers therein)

  • *** Comments Of The Department Of Justice, Joel I. Klein, Acting Assistant Attorney General, Antitrust Division - 346
  • Air Force Legal Information Services, [FLITE], Ms. Lynn A. Mokray Attorney/ Advisor, Mr. James H. Unterspan, Director, Dept. of Legal Systems - 033
  • Eight attorneys from the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) expressing personal views - 068
  • *** William J. Olmstead, Wheaton, Maryland, Associate General Counsel at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Washington, D.C.(media centers in local high schools understand how to access legal information electronically) - 279
  • Ann Steinmetz, Federal Public Defender Albuquerque Office, Federal Public Defender, District Of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM - 026
  • Matthew Wiener @ National Institutes of Health - 164

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    BAR/LAW ASSOCIATIONS

  • The American Association of Law Libraries - 032
  • American Bar Association, Position Statement, James E. Carbine, Baltimore, Maryland 21202 jcarbine@trialaw.com - 027
  • Statement of J. D. Fleming, Jr. Chair Of The Former ABA Special Committee on Citation Issues. jdfleming@sablaw.com - 028
  • Memorandum To: State Chief Justices From: ABA Special Committee on Citation Issues (Attachment to Fleming Statement) - 029
  • State Bar of California, David C. Long, Director of Research, San Francisco, CA - 034
  • New Jersey State Bar Association, Harold L. Rubenstein, New Brunswick, NJ - 037
  • William J. Baker, President, Oklahoma Bar Association, Oklahoma City, OK - 038
  • State Bar of Arizona, Nicholas J. Wallwork, Chair Task Force on the Future of the Profession, wallwork@mmww.com - 039
  • State Bar of South Dakota, Laurence J. Zastrow, Deputy Director - 040
  • State Bar of Wisconsin, David Saichek, President, William J. Mulligan, Attorney for State Bar of Wisconsin - 041
  • Judge Advocates Association, The National Bar of Military and Veteran's Attorneys, Kevin Patrick Flod, President - 047
  • Chicago Council of Lawyers, Paul W. Mollica, Chair, Federal Courts Committee, Chicago, Illinois - 046
  • Monroe County (PA) Bar Association, George Royle, Law Library Committee - 048

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    FOREIGN JUDGES AND LAWYERS

  • Justice A. Chaskalson, President, Constitutional Court of South Africa - 035
  • Roger Horne, 11 New Square, Lincoln's Inn, London WC2A 3QB, roger@number7.demon.co.uk - 059
  • *** Roger Horne, 11 New Square, Lincoln's Inn, London WC2A 3QB - 275

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    STATE COURTS, AGENCIES, OFFICIALS [AND INDIVIUDALS STATEMENTS]

  • Rep. Joseph Carleton, Wells, Maine - 042
  • Supreme Court of the State of New Mexico, Kathleen Jo Gibson, Chief Clerk, Santa Fe, New Mexico - 044
  • The Florida Legislature, Joint Legislative Management Committee The Florida Legislature, Michael Dodson, General counsel - 045
  • Frank Cox, Chief Deputy Public Defender, Marin County Hall of Justice, San Rafael, CA - 056
  • James Fitch, Chief Deputy Public Defender, Solano County, CA - 058
  • Mark W. Pedersen, Assistant District Attorney, Rochester, NY - 070
  • *** Marjorie Power, Division of Rate Setting, Waterbury, VT - 071
  • Linda Laub, government lawyer - 064
  • John D. MacFarlane, Denver, CO, Former state Attorney General (Colorado, 1975-83) - 066
  • Burton W. Knight, II, S. Barnstead, NH, (former Guardian Ad Litem and former Law Student, and a former New Hampshire State Representative) - 089

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    LAW PROFESSORS - other than Law Libarians

  • Patricia Brumfield Fry, Professor of Law, [Member, ABA Special Committee on Citation), University of North Dakota School of Law - 030
  • Peter D. Junger, professor of law at Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio - 061
  • Susan M. Kornfield, Chair, Intellectual Property Practice Group, Bodman, Longley & Dahling LLP, Ann Arbor, Michigan, Visiting Professor of Copyright Law, University of Michigan Law School - 062
  • Arthur S. Leonard, Professor, New York Law School, ALeonard@nyls.edu - 063
  • Dominick Vetri, Professor of Law, University of Oregon, Eugene, dvetri@law.uoregon.edu - 073
  • Charles Davenport, Professor of Law and Arthur L. Dickson Scholar, The State University Of New Jersey, Rutgers, Newark - 350

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    OTHER TEACHERS/PROFESSORS

  • Caryl Lynn Segal, University of Texas at Arlington Criminal Justice Department, Arlington, TX (teacher with no law library readily accessible) - 104
  • Alan G. Isaac, Associate Professor of Economics, American University - 220
  • Henry Schaffer Professor hes@ncsu.edu - 192
  • ** J. Melville Capps, Western State University, Fullerton, CA - 260

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    LAW LIBRARIANS - LIBRARIANS

  • Millard F. Johnson zendog@incolsa.palni.edu. Executive Director of INCOLSA. INCOLSA represents 735 libraries in Indiana. - 363
  • JILL FINLEY HENDERSON, TAYLOR COUNTY LAW LIBRARY - 224
  • Law Library of Louisiana, Carol D. Billings, Director - 036
  • Laura N. Gasaway, Director of the Law Library & Professor of Law University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, NC, laura_gasaway@unc.edu - 050
  • Robert C. Berring, Professor of Law and Law Librarian, University Of California, Berkeley, School of Law (Boalt Hall) - 051
  • David Selden, Research Specialist/Law Librarian, Orr & Reno P.A., Concord, NH - 052
  • Barbara Duval, Librarian, Smith Helms Mulliss & Moore (but speaking only for myself), Charlotte, NC, Barbara_Duval@shmm.com - 053
  • Bryan M. Carson, J.D., M.I.L.S., Reference/Computer Services Librarian, Hamline University Law Library, St Paul, Minnesota - 054
  • Betsy Sandison, Director, Baltimore County Circuit Court, Law Library, Towson, MD - 055
  • Prof. J. Lamar Woodard, Director of the Law Library , Stetson University College of Law, South, Gulfport (St. Petersburg) - 074
  • Susan Lewis-Somers , J.W. Long Law Library, Willamette University, Salem, OR - 065
  • Kathy_Wesenberg, librarian at the National Wildlife Health Center - 343
  • ** Marsha Woodbury, Ph.D., Director of Information Technology, Graduate School of Library and Information Science, UIUC, Chair, CPSR - 344
  • Kathy Carlson, Wyoming State Law Librarian, Cheyenne, Wyoming - 345
  • Lyn Warmath, Library Director, Hirschler, Fleischer, Weinberg, Cox & Allen Richmond, Virginia 23219 - 151
  • Carol Avery Nicholson, Assistant Director for Collection Resources and Bibliographic Services, Kathrine R. Everett Law Library, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, NC 27599, Member, Executive Board American Association of Law Libraries - 152
  • *** John P. Joergensen, Reference/Circulation Librarian, Rutgers University School of Law - Camden, Camden, NJ - 153
  • *** Alan Zoellner, Documents Librarian, Swem Library, College of William and Mary, Williamsburg, VA 23187-8794 - 155
  • Terri O. Saye, Catalog Librarian, Kathrine R. Everett Law Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - 193
  • Lynn Fogle, Librarian, Greenebaum Doll & McDonald - 236
  • Steve Marquardt, Ph.D., Dean of Libraries [???] - 083
  • ** Steve Marquardt, Ph.D., Dean of Libraries - 341
  • Marsha Thomas, Reference Librarian University of Utah - 166

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    LAW STUDENTS

  • James H. Wyman, Editor-in-Chief of the Florida State University Law Review, Tallahassee, Florida - 075
  • Charlie & Rachel, first year law student at Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul, Minnesota. - 216
  • Ruth Yodaiken, law student, Northeastern University School of Law. - 158
  • Eliot Williams NYU School of Law - 162
  • Marshall Leighton Wilde Second Year Law University of Oregon School of Law - 163>
  • Catherine Roth, Washington University School of Law (law student) - 101
  • Lauren B Bergida law student and future attorney - 088
  • David Euchner, Rutgers University School of Law 1994-1996 - Ex-Student - 154

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    LAWYERS

  • *** Comments Of Cleveland Thornton, Attorney At Law, Cleveland Thornton, Washington, DC 20002-7301 - 270
  • *** John E. Gagliano., Cohen, Gettings, Dunham & Davis, P.C. in Arlington, Virginia. - 276
  • *** Chris Graesser, cgraesser@goodwin.com, Shipman & Goodwin LLP Hartford CT - 277
  • *** Tim Headley, patent attorney, Haynes and Boone, L.L.P., Houston, Texas 77002-5012 - 278
  • *** Clyde R Christofferson, Oakton, Virginia, Attorney - 043
  • * Bruce Adelstein, Attorney at Law, Los Angeles, CA - 351
  • mary c. bryant, P.C., Attorney at Law, Illinois - 352
  • Thomas W. Hanson, LLC, Evergreen, CO (Atty.) - 227
  • Frank C. Carnahan, Carnahan, Evans, Cantwell & Brown, P.C., Springfield, MO 65804-1613 - 353
  • Ralph M. Tener, Tener & Callahan, P.C., 8330 Boone Boulevard, Vienna, Virginia - 354
  • John Callahan , Law Offices of Barry Tarlow - 355
  • James G. Caldwell, Member of the Missouri Bar - 356
  • ** Joseph M. Boyd, Jr., J.D., Nashville, TN Attorney - 357
  • Russell T. Abney, Esq. Gilpin, Paxson & Bersch, LLP. Houston, Texas - 358
  • Karl Arruda, Arlington, VA Attorney - 359
  • ERIC H. ARCHER, Attorney and Counsellor at Law, Also admitted In New Jersey, Walnut Creek CA 94596 - 360
  • Sheldon G. Bardach, Attorney at Law, Los Angeles, CA sgb@losgb.com - 361
  • Dennis Brager, A Tax Litigator in Los Angeles, California dbrager@mindspring.com - 362
  • Lawrence Dumville, Independence Law Center, Virginia Beach, Va. - 327
  • Peter L. Edwards, Attorney at Law, Denver, CO - 328
  • ** Christopher R. Costa, Attorney at Law , Silver Spring, Maryland - 329
  • Charles G. Currier CGCURRIER@aol.com practising attorney in Tennesse - 330
  • Franklin J. Feilmeyer, Attorney at law Ames, Iowa - 331
  • * Alan Freed, Paule, Camazine & Blumenthal Attorney - 332
  • Matt Gerdeman - 333
  • Law Office of William E. Grande, Kenmore, NY - 334
  • Cary B. Hall, Esq., Law offices of Cary B. Hall, Towson (Baltimore), Maryland - 335
  • * Daniel L. Hawes,Fairfax, Va., Admitted, U.S. S.Ct., U.S.C.A. (4th Cir.), U.S.D.C./E.D.Va. &, U.S.B.C./E.D.Va. - 336
  • Brent D. Hege, Attorney at Law, Des Moines, Iowa - 337
  • Alfred Eugene Hernandez, Attorney at Law, San Antonio, Tx. - 338
  • John O. Threadgill,Attorneys & Counselors at Law, Knoxville, TN - 339
  • John R. Hiner Jr., Attorney at Law, Wilmington, Delaware - 340
  • Chris Carter, Esq., Houston, TX - 342
  • Glenn A. Sacks, Attorney at Law, Minneapolis, MN - 297
  • Tom Roland Attorney - 298
  • J. Shane Rockey , Esq., Kansas City, KS - 299
  • Mark Pruner, Web Counsel, LLC, Website and Internet Consulting and Design - 300
  • Attorney? - 301
  • Richard Power, Attorney at Law, Criminal Appeals, Shingle Springs CA - 302
  • Cliff Potter, Potter & Thorelli, Chicago, IL - 303
  • pgh52@juno.com (Paul G. Hughes) Esq. - 304
  • Henry M. jasny, Esq, Falls Church, Virginia - 305
  • Law Office of Cem Kaner, Santa Clara, CA - 306
  • * William B. Kelley, Chicago, Illinois Attorney - 307
  • John S. Koivuhalme, Attorney at Law, koivulaw@mich.com - 308
  • Richard G. Larsen, Alexandria, Virginia, Member of the Virginia Bar - 309
  • richard s. Laudor, roemer & associates, Albany NY - 310
  • Allen M. Lenchek,Law Office of Allen M. Lenchek Rockville, MD, Admitted Md, DC. - 311
  • Thomas M. Loeb, Southfield, Mi Attorney - 312
  • David S. Markowitz, J.D., The Law Offices of Kathleen A. Frederick, Plymouth Mtg., PA - 313
  • Paul A. Meloan, Esq., paulam@erols.com, Rockville, MD - 314
  • James N. Menzel, Attorney, Stevens Point WI 54481 - 315
  • Costas Miskis Esq. - 316
  • * James R. Moore, Knoxville, TN Attorney - 317
  • Anthony C. Odiorne, Attorney at Law aodiorne@post.smu.edu - 318
  • ** David M. Nelsen, Attorney aT Law, Mason City, IA 50401 - 319
  • * Ronald A. Jones, Esq.,rajones@iag.net - 320
  • * Edward H. Koster, Attorney at Law, Ann Arbor, MI - 321
  • Thomas E. Kurth, litigation partner, Haynes and Boone, L.L.P., Dallas, Texas - 322
  • Charlotte Coats, Attorney California - 323
  • Vincent DiCarlo Esq. New York and California - 324
  • William A. Dobrovir, P.C., Esq., Warrenton, VA - 325
  • Warren L. Dranit, Spaulding & McCullough, LLP, Santa Rosa, CA Attorney - 326
  • *** Carol A. Overland, Overland Law Office, Northfield, MN - 280
  • *** Alice M Owens, St John's College, Cambridge CB2 1TP, UK . Atty. - 281
  • ** Ellen M. Poler Attorney at Law Publishing Consultant - 282
  • *** Thomas M. Susman, Ropes & Gray, Washington, DC - 283
  • James T. Weiner, Esq., Bingham Farms, Michigan - 284
  • Carolyn D. Wright, Esq. - 285
  • Courtney W. Wiswall, Esq., Portland, OR 97212 - 286
  • ** Edwin A. Williams, Esq., Kellogg, Williams & Lyons, Vienna, VA - 287
  • ** Charles S. Watson, Watson Law, Springfield Il - 288
  • *** James W. Tilly, Esq., For Tilly & Associates, Tulsa, OK - 289
  • C. Gregory Tiemeier, Esq., Kaluk, Burg and Tiemeier, Denver, CO. - 290
  • ** Mary L. Thomas, Esq., Arlington, VA 22204 - 291
  • ** Edward Still, Attorney, Birmingham AL - 292
  • Gray M. Strickland, The Strickland Law Firm, Tulsa, Oklahoma - 293
  • Peter L. Sissman, Attorney at Law, Arlington, Virginia - 294
  • *** Carol Ruth Shepherd, Business, Technology, Entertainment and New Media Law, Ann Arbor, MI - 295
  • Jay K. Nixon, Attorney at Law. - 107
  • B. Jean Thompson, Attorney at Law, Dallas, Texas 75248 - 111
  • Lisa A. Runquist, Esq., North Hollywood, CA (Although I still personally prefer reading the cases in book format, I cannot afford that luxury) - 112
  • ** Wade B. Perry, Jr., Esq., Mobile, AL 36633 - 113
  • Joanne C. Fray, Lexington, MA ( small firm attorney) - 114
  • *** James Y. Bryce, Attorney at Law, Austin, Texas - 115
  • Anthony Medina, Esq., Seattle, Washington - 067
  • "Gary E. Johnson" (disabled and retired liscensed attorney in a remote area of Kentucky) - 060
  • SR2445@aol.com (legal clinic assisting indigents - 072
  • Alfred Millstein, Attorney at Law, Detroit, MI 48226 (attorney handling state court appointed criminal appeals of indigent defendants) - 085
  • John Hearn sole practitioner in the state of South Carolina) - 086
  • Attorney - 296
  • William D. Young (member of the Oregon State Bar and an ALJ for a state agency) Eugene, OR - 076

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    LEGAL PUBLISHERS
    HyperLaw

  • HyperLaw Comments to the U.S. Judicial Comments Re Citation: March 14, 1997
  • HyperLaw Supplemental Comment Responding to West Comments, April 3, 1997
  • HyperLaw Reply Letter to Clerk, Fifth Circuit Re ABA Citation Proposal, March 21, 1997].
  • HyperLaw Reply Letter to Hon Richard Posner, Seventh Circuit, March 21, 1997
  • HyperLaw Reply Letter to Clerk, Eighth Circuit, March 28, 1997.
  • HyperLaw Comments Concerning Judicial Conference 1992 Electronic Citation System. Five years after West last defeated a public domain citation system for the federal courts, it is back again. Here are HyperLaw's April 9, 1992 comments, a copy of which was filed with the 1997 Committee.
    Other Publishers
  • *** American Association Of Legal Publishers, 282 North Washington Street, Falls Church, Virginia - 348
  • ** TAX ANALYSTS, Arlington, Virginia, Thomas F. Field, President and Publisher - 349
  • Comments Of West Group Regarding The ABA Citation Resolution - 081[HyperLaw Supplemental Comment Responding to West Comments, April 3, 1997.]
  • Tax Analysts, Thomas F. Field, President and Publisher - 082
  • Pinecone Publications L.L.C. -- Karen Ott-Worrow, Publisher, Washington, D.C.-based legal and business publisher - 078
  • Shepard's Statement To The Judicial Conference - 079
  • Anne Payne, Legal Cyberdesk of Florida, Publisher of Cyber Esq., the Florida Lawyer's Practical Guide to Free and Useful Information on the Internet - 198
  • Bob Stewart President VRmedia Internet Publishing Corporation Kennebunkport, ME - 180
  • J. Michael Jimmerson, Inherent.Com, Inc. - 217

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    JOURNALISTS/WRITERS

  • Barry D Bayer, Attorney at Law, Editor in Chief / Law Office Technology Review, Homewood, IL bbayer@counsel.com - 057
  • Elsa F. Kramer, editor@iquest.net, Indianapolis, self-employed writer and editor who frequently researches legal issues, - 090
  • Doug Sword Indianapolis Bureau Chief Evansville Courier - 175
  • ** Charles Levendosky, Editorial Page Editor and First Amendment Web Site Editor, Casper Star-Tribune - 214

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    OTHER ASSOCIATIONS

  • The Planning and Conservation League, Sacramento, CA, Gary A. Patton, General Counsel - 069
  • Comments Of The Reporters Committee For Freedom Of The Press, Jane E. Kirtley, Esq., Executive Director, Barbara Lerner, Esq., Legal Fellow, Arlington, VA. 22209 - 080
  • Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility (CPSR) - 364

  • *** John Lederer, Union for the Public Domain - 271
  • *** Association Of Reporters Of Judicial Decisions, Falls Church, VA, Wm. Scott Henwood, Chair, Electronic Publishing - 272
  • ***Sr. Mary Elizabeth, SSE, AIDS Education Global, Information System, San Juan Capistrano, CA - 240
  • ABA Judicial Division, Hon. Norma L. Shapiro, Chair. Questions can be referred to Luke Bierman, Director, Judicial Division, Chicago, IL, biermanl@staff.abanet.org - 031
  • Association For Computing, Office of US Public Policy, Barbara Simons, Chair - 032A
  • Michael E. Tankersley, Alan B. Morrison, Public Citizen Litigation Group, Washington, DC - 049
  • The National Institute On Firearms & Society, Charles L. Eichhorn, J.D., Executive Director, Oakland, CA - 077

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    GENERAL PUBLIC

  • Dana Barsish (a non-lawyer who has presented cases before two courts of appeal in Florida) - 084
  • Jackson W. Barnett, Lake Pleasant, MA - 087
  • Robert C. Lake, rlake@monk.aum.edu, Montgomery, Alabama - 091
  • James E. Leinweber, Information Systems - State Laboratory of Hygiene - University of Wisconsin - 092
  • Tim Leslie, Corvallis, Ore. - 093
  • Mr. Juha O. Makipaa, 5 Charlotte Road, Fishkill, NY - 094
  • Lyle McBroom, Kalispell, MT, (I am not a lawyer, yet I try to read as many court cases as I can) - 095
  • Cheryl Post paralegal - 096
  • ** Jeffrey Price, , Jeffrey Lee Price, University of Idaho - 097
  • ricallan - 098
  • Timothy R. Rice (John Q. Public), Network Systems Analyst Department of Medicine, Duke University Medical Center - 099
  • Roger D. Rines, San Jose, CA - 100
  • Anant Sahai - 102
  • Ian Schindler PhD. - 103
  • LeAnn Mynatt - 105
  • Dean Robb - 106
  • Daniel Newman, Berkeley, CA graduate student - 108
  • Marvin Balogh <"mfb@skyenet.net"@skyenet.net> - 109
  • Mark Allyn, Seattle, Wa - 110
  • John WengerRedondo Beach, CA 980278-2901 - 150
  • From: Kim Zavala - 156
  • Liberty Young, Cottonwood, Az., shoe@sedona.net - 157
  • Dean Yimlamai Studio City, CA 91604 - 159
  • David P.C. Wollmann - 160
  • Richard A. Witten, Ann Arbor, MI - 161
  • Claude Van Horn Cheyenne, WY - 165
  • James Thiele - 167
  • Todd - 168
  • Richard Todd rgtodd@mindspring.com - 169
  • Ron Taylor, Southern California rrt@irealms.com - 170
  • tapp@usit.net - 171
  • Mike Takaki - 172
  • Anosh Taheri-Tafreshi - 173
  • jsweet@raleigh.ibm-com - 174
  • Gavin Sutcliffe Director, Web Services Webthreads, LLC Vienna, VA - 176
  • Scott Surbrook - 177
  • Richard L. Sudranski - 178
  • Steve Stovall Dallas Voice Mail, Inc. - 179
  • Doug Sterrett pan@syix.com - 181
  • thermal@flash.net - 182
  • C.P. Spight - 183
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    Table of Contents
    HYPERLAW SUMMARY OF CONCERNS OF FEDERAL JUDGES
    Originally appeared in
    MARCH 24, 1996 HYPERLAW REPORT - JUDICIAL CONFERENCE PUBLIC COMMENTS

    Many federal judges fully support the ABA Report and understand the policy reasons underlying the Report and Resolution.

    Others have concerns, some based upon a misunderstanding of the proposal, others based upon differing views of the role of the courts, and others based upon related policy issues.

    Following is an overview of the concerns.

    PUBLISHED VERSUS UNPUBLISHED OPINIONS
    1. Many judges have a concern that sequence numbering so-called unpublished opinions is in some way suggesting that these opinions may indeed be of precedential value.

    COMMENT: One would assume that these judges know that Lexis and Westlaw electronically publish many so-called unpublished opinions and that most people do not have access to those on-line systems and thus do not have access to those opinions. These judges do not seem to have the answer to why the courts should discourage access by the many when the privileged have access.

    ORDERS VERSUS OPINIONS
    2. Many judges have a concern at the district court level because of the large number of orders and memoranda opinions. They do not know how to distinguish as to which documents require sequence numbers. However, in this line of thought, many district judges say they like the present system which is that if they want an opinion "published", they mail it to West Publishing Company

    COMMENT: The fallacy in this argument is that the judges are already making this determination when they send the manuscripts to West. Requiring sequence numbers merely institutionalizes this "informal" practice, and, makes the selection of district court case something in the public domain. So, even if many judges wish to not number the non-precedential opinions, the public would still be ahead by getting the bulk of the meaningful opinions under a useful immediately available citation.

    ADMINISTRATIVE DIFFICULTY OF SEQUENCING OPINIONS
    3. Many district court judges and clerks point out the problem of sequencing opinions where there are numerous judges and numerous divisions in the same court.

    COMMENT: If a court only sequence numbers precedential opinions (and related amending order), this could probably be done by hand, but it would be best if done by computer. However, every opinion/order is already being placed in a computer, which prepares the computerized docket sheet available on PACER. Thus, this system could 0 easily mark all opinions/orders to for sequencing, and automatically assign the sequence number that would appear in the docket sheet.

    ADMINISTRATIVE DIFFICULTY OF MAINTAINING SEQUENCE NUMBER/DOCKET NUMBER TABLES
    4. Many judges point to the fact that cases and opinions therein are already identified by a docket (case) number and worry about the need to maintain cross-reference tables between the sequence number and the docket number.

    COMMENT: The PACER docket system could easily be modified to handle these tables, plus, lists could easily be generated and placed on the WEB. One interesting issue: this same issue applies to the present West citations -- they do not include the docket numbers. Moreover, no one ever inserts the West citation into the docket sheet for the case. Has anyone ever pulled an opinion and tried to see if that case was published by West. That is truly a pain, although Westlaw and Lexis helps. It is worse if there are multiple opinions in the same case.

    DIFFICULTY OF INSERTING PARAGRAPH NUMBERS
    5. A number of judges complain about the enormous burden of inserting paragraph numbers. Other judges point out that this is easily automated and is not a problem at all.

    COMMENT: There are many ways to number paragraphs. The second group of judges is correct. In my view, the first group are just complaining and probably complained about moving from typewriters to computers and probably have been complaining for the last five years about moving to Windows word processors.

    DISFIGUREMENT
    6. A number of judges complain about disfigurement of their opinions.

    COMMENT: The answer to that is to two-fold. First, no one ever claims that the West key numbers disfigure the West opinions. Second, there are a variety of ways to insert paragraph numbers to minimize visual aesthetic effect, from using small superscripts to placing the numbers in a margin. Thomson does this now in Canada, and Thomson/ West does this now for South Dakota, New Mexico, and US Court of Military Appeals opinions. Finally, to the extent that a reader has never seen paragraph numbers, they may prove to be a distraction, but, the mind is readily trained to not notice such distractions.

    PARAGRAPH NUMBERING AFFECTS HOW OPINIONS ARE READ
    7. Some judges object to numbering paragraphs because it would tend to encourage some lawyers not to read the entire opinion.

    COMMENT: This is a subjective statement -- one could respond that West key numbers in the text, which are not official, encourage citations to those topical categories and lawyers still do not read the entire opinion. This advantage of an arbitrary paragraph number is that is has no meaning, and therefore, no one should rely upon only a single paragraph. However, a West key number does indeed encourage lawyers to confine reading only to the material under a single key number.